Greg Thomas (who previously spoke with me here and here) and Jewel Kinch-Thomas of the Jazz Leadership Project join me to explore the extraordinary ways that jazz builds collaborative leadership.
This is one of the most enjoyable conversations I’ve had on the podcast.
I learned new ways of thinking about group flow states, elite performance, and deliberately practicing in teams.
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Highlights
- 3:30 Two big misunderstandings people have about jazz
- 8:00 Why is jazz a more useful metaphor for leadership than orchestra or opera?
- 22:00 The rhythm section exemplifies shared leadership
- 26:00 From “that’s not my role” to using signals to help each other out
- 32:00 Constant feedback helps you perform at a high level
- 36:30 Ensemble mindset, “big ears”, and three ways to listen
- 43:00 Group flow states and grooving to the music
- 55:00 Developing excellence by practicing “in the shed”
- 1:00:30 Trading silos for shared purpose so you hum as a team
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