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Episode 42: Lisa Marshall On Exiting, Firing, and Burnout Nation [The Amiel Show]

Episode 42: Lisa Marshall On Exiting, Firing, and Burnout Nation [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Apr 11, 2016

Sometimes it takes a wise voice unperturbed by convention to make us radically rethink everyday acts. Consider these questions:

  • How do you lay someone off?
  • How can you exit an organization gracefully?
  • What does it take to make meetings juicier?

Lisa Marshall wants you to consider these questions with greater maturity, clarity, and thoughtfulness. That way, in the very act of doing what you’re paid to do, you can grow into a leader others want to hire, partner with, and follow.

Listen in as this seasoned leadership coach and author breathes new life into old questions.

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Highlights

  • 5:00  We still live in Burnout Nation
  • 13:30 Why Lisa insists on putting her coachee’s interests first
  • 16:15 Meaningless meetings vs environments rich in stories of helping customers
  • 22:30 Why the juiciest subjects belong at the start of meetings
  • 25:30 Body language tells you whether a “yes” is genuine
  • 32:30 How to tell someone they’ve been laid off
  • 38:00 Leaders hold the walls of the container
  • 49:30 How to leave an organization gracefully
  • 1:00:00 Saying “I’m sorry” before you leave the organization
  • 1:07:30 Why maturity matters
  • 1:11:30 Why Lisa gardens

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Any meeting without an agenda is almost by definition a waste of time.

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‘Thank you’ and ‘I’m sorry’ are the two key elements of completion.

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Explore Additional Resources

Speak The Truth And Point To Hope: The Leader’s Journey to Maturity by Lisa Marshall
“Burnout Nation”—Lisa’s article
“The Top Five Regrets of the Dying”—article by hospice nurse
“On Telling Someone They’ve Been Laid Off”—Lisa’s article
“Word To Leave By”—Lisa’s article
The Smart Work Company, Lisa’s coaching firm
Arbinger Institute
John Searle
Fernando Flores
William Bridges and the “neutral zone” in transitions
“Where Are The Grown Ups?”—Lisa’s article
“Stealth Culture Changes”—Lisa’s article

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