No More Feedback With Carol Sanford (Episode 103)


This week, contrarian business thought leader Carol Sanford joins me to discuss her new book, No More Feedback.

If the title strikes you as both surprising and unnerving, welcome to the club. Within organizations giving and receiving feedback are widely considered noble acts. Although we may not be competent at feedback, we know it’s a good thing—key to personal growth and leadership development.

Carol says, “no, not really.”

In her view, any effort to ask another person where I am strong or how I could improve is intrinsically harmful, even toxic. For this reason she offers a harsh critique of annual performance reviews, competency models, and 360 degree interviews. The damage they cause is so profound (e.g. rewarding conformity, shifting attention from big promises, encouraging confirmation bias, and reducing self-reflection) and the foundation upon which they are based is so flawed that it’s foolish to tweak them.

Instead, Carol argues, get rid of feedback entirely.

Three things I learned in talking with Carol:

  1. I share her assessment of most of the activities that she calls “feedback.”
  2. When I use the term “feedback”—for example, as one of four steps in the on-the-job-practice cycle—I’m talking about something that Carol does not consider feedback because the person requesting it is authoring their own learning.
  3. I can stay grounded while listening to someone critique a practice near and dear to my heart, as Carol does with the Enneagram. In fact, it’s kind of fun.

Have a listen, and tell me what you think.


  • 10:00 Humans as machines, the first seedbed of feedback
  • 17:00 Three foundational capacities of people to cultivate
  • 24:30 Jerry, a contrarian at Weyerhaeuser pushed out for not conforming
  • 32:00 Feedback raises anxiety
  • 41:00 Opportunities to self-reflect can break attachment to 360 feedback
  • 49:00 Why modifying feedback systems doesn’t work: the premise is flawed
  • 54:00 Carol only has people assess themselves in relation to a big promise they are making in the world
  • 1:02:00 Carol’s work with Seventh Generation when it was in the red
  • 1:12:00 Perils of low fat diet, benefits of intermittent fasting

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Episode 35: Doc Parsley on How Sleep Makes Everything Better [The Amiel Show]

Sleep helps you perform better at everything.


At work. At home. And all the places in between.

Now, what if you’re less interested in doing more than in being the best version of yourself?

Sleeps helps there, too.

This is the message of Doctor Kirk Parsley, known widely as Doc Parsley. He is a medical doctor, sleep and hormonal modulation expert, consultant to corporations and professional teams, and former Sleep Medicine expert for Navy Special Warfare.

One other distinction: Doc Parsley is physically strong. Who better to disabuse us of the notion that “sleep is for the weak” than a former Navy SEAL and competitive athlete?

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  • 5:00 What persuades people to pay attention to their sleep
  • 22:00 How our ancestors maximized slow wave sleep
  • 26:30 How REM sleep cements everything you learned that day
  • 33:30 How sleep can help you when starting a new leadership role
  • 39:30 Doc Parsley’s journey from competitive athlete to Navy SEAL to physician to sleep expert
  • 44:00 Navy SEALs with blood panels you’d expect in an out-of-shape 65-year-old man
  • 57:00 The great results you can get from one week of great sleep
  • 59:00 Sleep hygiene
  • 1:02:30 How catching up on sleep is like paying off credit card debt
  • 1:08:30 The ideal length of a nap
  • 1:12:30 Perimenopausal and menopausal women and their hormonal and sleep challenges

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The time you get better at everything is while you sleep

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If I gave you $1M to make sleep your #1 priority for a week, could you do it?

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Episode 27: Nina Teicholz On The Big Fat Surprise

What if everything you thought was true about nutrition turned out to be wrong?

If this doesn’t sound like a leadership question, think again. What you eat has dramatic impact on

  • The physical and emotional energy you bring to work
  • Your capacity to stay healthy and free of heart disease, obesity, and cancer
  • How long you live

That is the theme of this special interview with Nina Teicholz, author of the international bestseller and critically acclaimed The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat & Cheese Belong in Healthy Diet.



  • 4:09 Nina’s critique of Dean Ornish’s low-fat, plant-based diet
  • 12:30 The gist of Nina’s book
  • 17:30 How Nina the vegetarian had her own big fat surprise
  • 20:10 Nina addresses objections to eating meat
  • 30:00 Why it’s harder to overeat on fats and proteins
  • 31:30 Vegetable oils and the danger of oxidation
  • 40:30 Why institutional science is an oxymoron
  • 41:45 Ancel Keys and the Big Bang of nutrition science
  • 44:00 The bloodsport of nutrition politics
  • 45:00 The flaws and limitations of Ancel Keys’s study
  • 48:00 Why sampling diets during Lent skews the data
  • 51:30 The low fat diet goes to Washington
  • 60:00 The food pyramid

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