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Episode 41: Peter Block On Ambition, Authenticity, And Community [The Amiel Show]

Episode 41: Peter Block On Ambition, Authenticity, And Community [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Mar 28, 2016

One of my favorites interviews of all time!

In the consulting field Peter Block is a giant. His book Flawless Consulting–now in its third edition–taught us how to show up in client relationships with authenticity, rigor, and an eye for potential pitfalls.

Peter also influenced a generation of managers with his book The Empowered Manager. Today, he brings his passion to building local community around people’s assets.

In this interview, Peter and I walk through the trajectory of his career–his earlier years as an ambitious internal consultant, the decision (unusual at the time) to start an external consultancy, how he learned to build relationships with others despite being a self-described “loner,” and the questions and commitments that have pulled him in and shifted how he works.

For a serious conversation about big ideas and a full life, this was a heck of a lot of fun.  Enjoy–and share widely!

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Highlights

  • 5:00 Getting into the field by accident & influence of Chris Argyris
  • 12:30 A loner finds connection in Gestalt and T-groups
  • 16:30 Early years of restless ambition and almost getting fired
  • 22:30 The risks of being authentic
  • 25:30 Influence of Werner Erhard, language, and speech acts
  • 31:30 The Philippines—working with citizens and loving it
  • 37:00 Taking two years off to raise kids
  • 42:00 Peter tells me, “You’re amazing. You frighten me.”
  • 47:30 Why focus on gifts rather than deficiencies
  • 50:30 John McKnight’s work on asset-base community development
  • 58:30 Contracting in place-based communities

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Authenticity–putting into words what you see happening–is risky.

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As soon as you acknowledge your gifts, you become accountable.

–Peter Block   Tweet this quote

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  • Peter Block’s web site
  • Chris Argyris
  • T-Groups and Gestalt Therapy
  • Flawless Consulting by Peter Block
  • The Answer to How is Yes by Peter Block
  • Barry Oshry
  • Roger Harrison
  • Werner Erhard
  • John McKnight
  • The Abundant Community by Peter Block and John McKnight
  • The Careless Society by John McKnight
  • Asset-based community development

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Filed Under: Accountability, Bosses, Citizen action, Conflict, Consulting, Emotions, Podcast, Relationships, Strengths

Episode 40: Nancy Berns On Moving Beyond “Closure” [The Amiel Show]

Episode 40: Nancy Berns On Moving Beyond “Closure” [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Mar 21, 2016

Your best friend at work leaves for another job. Your spouse gets fired. The great team you’ve been part of gets split up. Chronic illness keeps you from doing things you enjoy. You experience the death of a sibling, parent, or child.

What do these things have in common?

They are examples of loss.

But that’s not all.

They are also situations in which our culture (in the United States at least) encourages us to “get closure.”

Getting closure makes sense, right?

Not so fast, says Dr. Nancy Berns, Professor of Sociology at Drake University and author of Closure: The Rush To End Grief And What It Costs Us.

The pressure to move past loss is harmful to our families, our emotional health, and our organizations.

And there is a better way to grieve–indeed, many better ways, each appropriate at different times to different people.

This week on the podcast, Dr. Berns talks about closure and what becomes possible when we choose other approaches for handling loss.

Nancy Berns beyond closure

Highlights

  • 13:00  Why closure became popular in the 1990s
  • 16:00  Rituals help us feel part of something bigger
  • 20:00  The experience of infant loss
  • 25:00  Conversations Nancy had about the loss of her son, Zachariah
  • 28:00  Knowing who you feel safe sharing with
  • 33:00  Small acts of kindness
  • 38:45  Society’s expectations of how men and women should grieve
  • 43:00  Being part of someone’s death or burial

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Closure is just a word we’ve made up. There’s no research showing that we need closure.

–Dr. Nancy Berns   Tweet this quote

When people hear the word ‘closure,’ they often hear, ‘You’re telling me I need to end my grieving.’

–Dr. Nancy Berns   Tweet this quote

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  • Closure: The Rush To End Grief And What It Costs Us by Nancy Berns
  • Nancy’s TEDx talk
  • Nancy’s blog about closure
  • Brief Encounters, a support group for bereaved parents of pregnancy and infant loss

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Filed Under: Emotions, Engagement, Parenting, Podcast, Relationships

Episode 38: Dr. Keith Witt On Creating A Marital Love Affair [The Amiel Show]

Episode 38: Dr. Keith Witt On Creating A Marital Love Affair [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Mar 7, 2016

For the past few years, I have identified a “personal hero of the year,” someone who has inspired me to be a wiser, more loving, and more courageous person. In 2015, my personal hero of the year was marriage expert Dr. Keith Witt.

Dr. Keith is an integral psychotherapist, author, big thinker, and “therapist in the wild.”

In this rich and entertaining interview, we talk about about creating marital love affairs, improving sex, and developing the skills of a self-regulating adult in relationship. Get ready for a very valuable hour!

Dr Keith Witt

Highlights

  • 5:00  How healthy marriages improve happiness, physical health, longevity, and children’s lives
  • 9:45 Why it’s not surprising that marriage becomes less passionate over time
  • 14:30 Why cheating on your spouse can seem to “appear out of nowhere”
  • 18:30 When commitment shifts to “I’ll do what it takes”
  • 20:00 Why some marriages get better after kids
  • 24:30 White knuckle monogamy
  • 29:00 Defensive states and the role of self-regulation skills
  • 37:30 The role of sex in mending relationships
  • 39:30 Getting in touch with you masculine and feminine core
  • 45:00 How your attachment style as an infant affects your adult relationships
  • 48:30 Using differentiation to improve sex
  • 50:00 Improving sex – different advice from five leading relationship experts
  • 56:00 Dr. Keith’s “two rules for guys” and “two rules for women”
  • 1:00:00 Makeup sex

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Couples are not taught about defensive states or how to self-regulate

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The martial love affair requires conscious attention

–Dr. Keith Witt   Tweet this quote

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Sessions: All Therapy Supports Relationships Integrating Towards Unity by Keith Witt
Love maps
Lust maps
Romantic infatuation leads to intimate bonding
Vasopressin gene expression and infidelity
John Gottman
Turning toward others
The Gift of Shame: Why We Need Shame And How To Use It To Love And Grow by Keith Witt
David Deida
Sue Johnson and Emotionally Focused Therapy
John Bowlby and infant attachment styles
Stan Tatkin’s Psychobiologist Approach to Couples Therapy (PACT)
Esther Perel
David Schnarch
Alison Armstrong
Waking Up: Psychotherapy As Art, Spirituality, And Science by Keith Witt
Therapist in the Wild

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Filed Under: Adult development, Emotions, Marriage, Parenting, Podcast, Relationships

Episode 36: Susanne Cook-Greuter On Leadership Maturity, Part 1 [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Feb 9, 2016

Often when things go haywire, we blame others or ourselves.

  • “If only I was smarter.”
  • “If only my boss gave me the right responsibilities.”
  • “If only I picked a better boss.”

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What if the source of our troubles wasn’t something wrong with us–or others–but the fact that we haven’t yet developed to our full potential?

When I first came across this concept 15 years ago, I felt a breath of fresh air. What an amazing idea that as adults, we haven’t yet reached the end of the line.

This is the theory of adult development. You can’t look far in this field without running across the name Susanne Cook-Greuter. She is one of the world’s leading researchers, consultants, and coaches in adult development. In fact, many of the world’s leading experts in this area consider her their mentor.

Recently, I had the privilege of spending two hours with Susanne talking about how and why adults develop and what this means for leadership and organizations. This week, join me in enjoying part 1 of that conversation.

Highlights

  • 5:30 What Piaget taught us about child development
  • 13:00 Vertical development becomes mainstream
  • 16:30 The three waves of development: preconventional, conventional, and postconventional. See the chart we discuss here.
  • 24:00 The three stages where 80% of adults in the West live
  • 31:30 The impact of a CEO’s level of development on her organization
  • 33:00 Susanne’s advice for parents of teenagers
  • 43:30 What all adult development models have in common
  • 52:00 How stage models different outside of western culture

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At each developmental stage, there are capacities that weren’t imaginable before

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  • The Center for Leadership Maturity, Dr. Cook-Greuter’s consulting, training, research, and coaching firm
  • Intensive programs in the the Leadership Maturity Framework and Maturity Assessment for Professionals (MAP) instrument
  • Article summarizing Dr. Cook-Greuter’s developmental framework
  • Postautonomous Ego Development, Dr. Cook-Greuter’s landmark study of highly developed adults
  • White paper by Center for Creative Leadership advocating for vertical development
  • Robert Kegan
  • Bill Joiner on pivotal conversations

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Filed Under: Adult development, Careers, Complexity, Emotions, Leadership development, Podcast, Relationships

In My Mailbox–January 28, 2016

by amiel · Jan 28, 2016

Hearing your thoughts, whether in the comments section or via email, makes my day. Here is a mix–some recent, some from a while back.

We used Practice Greatness today for the kick off session of year 2 of a leadership program – well received – good engagement. —Y.D.

Y.D., I’m thrilled to hear that you used the book and that it supported the important work you do in education.

Yeah!   you’re rockin it.  Great posts.  I sense a catching of your stride with social media and blogging. —M.D

M.D., thanks for reading and the kind comment!

You say on the podcast [Turn Toward Others, A Jedi Leadership Trick] at 6:00:

  • turning away increases conflict by producing hurt feelings and causes relationships to end relatively quickly….
  • turning against leads to conflict avoidance by suppressing feelings and causes relationships to end more slowly….

I would think that the exact opposite is true.  Try reversing the words “away” and “against” above.  Here it is:

  • turning against increases conflict by producing hurt feelings and causes relationships to end relatively quickly….
  • turning away leads to conflict avoidance by suppressing feelings and causes relationships to end more slowly….

That makes as much or more sense, right? Especially how turning away leads to conflict avoidance…–S.L.

S.L. thank you for persisting, because you totally nailed it. I did commit a reversal – and fortunately reversible – error.

Folks, keep the questions, comments, and corrections coming!

Filed Under: Conflict, Relationships

Episode 33: Own Your Own Emotions, A Jedi Leadership Trick [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Jan 13, 2016

In this 15 minute episode, you will learn one of the keys to emotional mastery: taking responsibility for your own emotions.

Why is it unhelpful to you and others to blame them for how you are feeling?

What changes when you start taking responsibility for your emotions?

Listen in as I answer these questions and describe the five levels of competence of owning your own emotions.

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Filed Under: Adult development, Complexity, Emotions, Podcast, Relationships Tagged With: emotions, Jedi Leadership trick

What to do when you stand someone up

What to do when you stand someone up

by amiel · Dec 29, 2015

It happens to the best of us. You stand someone up.

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You make a commitment to meet someone. Then an interruption happens in your world–a lengthy meeting, calendar mishap, traffic, or a mental mistake–so you don’t make it. And–now here is the key point–you don’t or can’t contact them in advance to say that you won’t be there.

We call this “standing someone up.”

If people were dogs, the person stood up would wait a few minutes, then look for a new bone to chew. If people were turtles, they’d withdraw their neck back into the shell. If we were bonobos, they’d find some nearby genitals to rub.

But people are human beings.

So the person you stood up is likely to have a very human and very predictable response. They’ll feel surprised (unless you always do this to them, which is another story entirely) and upset (unless they didn’t want to see you right now, which is still another tale). Then, depending on how they tend to interpret their experiences–which differs by gender, cultural background, and Enneagram type– they will experience some combination of anger, frustration, and hurt.

In short, when you stand someone up, they are not happy campers.

Like all broken promises, this moment can go one of several ways. If you flub it, the relationship can take a dip south. If you handle it skillfully, you can maintain or even build trust.

So what do you do when you stand someone up?

  1. Calm and center yourself. It happens rarely, but when I stand someone up, I tend to feel shame because keeping promises is very important to me. It’s an instantaneous and habitual reaction. So I’ve learned it’s important for me to calm and center myself before I do anything else. Two Feet, Five Breaths or a similar practice works well.
  2. Get clear on what happened. What is the true reason why you stand someone up? What is the real story behind why you didn’t give them a heads up? Get clear on what kept you from keeping your promise, because you’ll need this in a moment.
  3. Decide how you will contact them. The classic advice is to pick up the phone because this makes it personal and live. So this is a good default. However, we now have many ways of contacting people, so ask yourself: what medium will this person most appreciate? Also, if the goal now is to mend the relationship, maybe it’s time to question the conventional wisdom of calling someone when they’re upset. Does this really serve them and the relationship? Only if you are capable of staying cool when they express their upset. Otherwise, a text, email, or handwritten note that you can drop off that day might produce better results. What if you get their voice mail? This can be a blessing because you can can be real and personal without the other person having to respond right away.
  4. Apologize. A short and direct apology often works better than a long and indirect one. Here’s why: the reason you stand them up is rarely complicated. And if it is, there should be a simple way to sum it up. The longer you blather on, the more likely the other person is to question whether you (a) understood what happened and (b) are taking responsibility for it.
  5. Listen and acknowledge. Mending a broken promise isn’t a one-way act. The goal isn’t to speak until you’ve dissolved your guilt and then move on. The goal is to mend the broken promise. So if the other person expresses upset or tells you the impact on them, acknowledge their words. For this, repeating the words “I’m sorry” is less important than paraphrasing what you hear and telling them it makes total sense. For example, two decades ago I was helping run a gubernatorial race in Michigan. One day the candidate cancelled a meet-and-greet with thirty sharp young lawyers, veritable rising stars, at the top two law firms in the state. I was able to reach the three organizers by phone so they could cancel an hour in advance. So it wasn’t a pure example of standing someone up. Still, when I met the organizers for tea, they were furious. One explained that she had carefully reached out one-on-one to a dozen colleagues from both political parties to get them to come. She also put her reputation on the line by saying, “This guy’s for real.” So, when she had to look each person in the eye and say, “The event is cancelled,” she felt embarrassed. So she really let me have it. (The fact that I was also angry at the candidate for cancelling was irrelevant, and I don’t believe I mentioned it). The others were less angry but equally vocal. I spent over an hour listening, paraphrasing what I heard, and acknowledging that their experience was totally understandable. Boy, was that a challenge for me! This was two years before I started meditating, so it took every ounce of patience to stay grounded and centered. And the upshot? I never heard from the most angry lawyer again. However, one of the others became a regular volunteer for the campaign and the third invited me to a couple social gatherings.
  6. Make a new offer. This step is really important. You’ve broken a commitment, so it’s important to make a new one. An offer is a commitment to bring about a particular result by a specific time frame if the other person accepts. The offer could be as simple as rescheduling to a different date. In some cases, this is enough. However, you may want to offer something extra to further acknowledge the impact you have caused and “make it up” to the other person. If the meeting you missed was at your office or a neutral location, offer to go to them. If you were going to each pay your own way, offer to treat them. Or think of something else you could offer that they would value. And if you don’t know, ask. In fact, regardless of what you offer, you will be asking if they’d like to accept it. (“Will this work for you” or “How about it?”) So you might as well include an extra phrase that lets them tell you what they would value most. You say, “Would this work for you, or is there a better way I can make this up to you?” You don’t have to accept their counteroffer, but it’s nice to invite it.
  7. Fulfill the new promise. Do what you say you are going to do. To ensure this happens, remind yourself of the conditions that caused you to break the original promise, and change the conditions.

That’s my take. Anything you want to add that has worked (or bombed) for you when you stand someone up? Shoot me an email at amiel at amielhandelsman.com.

 

Filed Under: Conflict, Emotions, Promises, Relationships, Words that work

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