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Episode 28: Sarita Chawla On The Near Death Experience Of The Ego [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Oct 13, 2015

Sarita Chawla is a wise woman. Wise enough to realize that when it comes to developing people, deeper isn’t always better.

It’s important to meet people where they are.

In this episode, we discuss vertical development–how it differs from most approaches to leadership development and why it matters for mastery. Sarita walks us through two stages of development where most people experience challenges. New Ventures West calls them Immediate Concerns and Balance. One describes an inner life of constant firefighting with little capacity for self-reflection. The other deals with life as a proud juggler of “necessary” responsibilities.

Think these sound like you? Think they don’t? Either way, Sarita has a message worth hearing.

Highlights

3:00 What is vertical development?
14:30 The challenge of letting go
16:00 A near death experience of the ego
22:00 After the “aha” moment is…disorientation
30:00 Immediate Concerns–a life of constant firefighting–and beyond
37:30 Balance–a self-important juggler of many things–and beyond
40:00 Reinterpreting the networking lunch
48:30 What Sarita is personally practicing in her life

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A Comedian Interviews Me About My Work

by amiel · Aug 31, 2015

This one is really fun.

Stand-up comic Rosie Tran interviewed me for her Out of The Box Podcast. She did a magnificent job asking questions, and is one of the most positive (i.e. not depressed or narcissistic) comedians you’ll run across.

That may be why I felt very relaxed during a conversation that covered important topics like managing emotional triggers and building healthy relationships with others.

In fact, I swore more than a few times–kind of like I typically do in life.

Take a listen. I think you’ll enjoy it.

Here is the interview.

Episode 16: Julie Daley on creativity in leadership [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Apr 27, 2015

Imagine that:

Creativity isn’t something “other” people have
Creativity is much broader than art–or even new ideas and products
Creativity isn’t just about you. It’s about what you create with other people
Creativity isn’t even just about creativity. It’s about being skilled in emotions, difficult conversations, and leadership

Many people consider these a stretch. Not Julie Daley, who teaches Creativity in Leadership at Stanford and helps women become a force of nature through her company, Unabashedly Female. Julie sees these as starting points for guiding people to access their creativity in leadership and the rest of life.

Episode Highlights

6:00 Julie guides me to access my own creativity–live
15:00 The man who used Julie’s class to decide whether to propose marriage
23:00 How judging others keeps their ideas from coming forth fully
28:00 What you can do to work with your inner critic
32:00 How to see with your heart…or your toe
35:00 How a single conversation can ignite you to feel more alive
37:00 What creativity teaches us about difficult conversations
51:30 What leadership from a place of love is like
55:00 What Julie is personally practicing to grow as a human being

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Episode 15: Cliff Atkinson on giving high-stakes presentations [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Apr 20, 2015

Cliff Atkinson wants you to nail your presentations–particularly when the stakes are high.

Cliff designed the slides that won a $253 million jury verdict in Texas. And he wrote a book called Beyond Bullet Points that shows how to truly inspire and inform people. In episode 15 of The Amiel Show, he tells the back story of that trial and describes how to start strong, break presentations into powerful chunks, and create effective slides.

We discuss:

4:00 The back story to Cliff’s work in the Vioxx case
12:00 Strong openings. Don’t start with an agenda
19:00 People like mysteries and challenges
26:00 Start with the story, then create the graphics
32:00 Make information easy to digest. Stop overwhelming people
38:00 Start with a powerful visual, not your agenda or corporate overview
44:00 How we’ve misused PowerPoint
47:00 Chart junk
48:30 Corporate capabilities presentations are about the wrong people
63:00 How groups can collaborate

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Episode 9: Tim Fort On Leadership And Integrity [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Feb 9, 2015

The most I laughed in graduate school was in a class on Business Ethics.

Does that surprise you?

It sure blew my mind. After all, ethics has a reputation for being part tranquilizer, part antagonist. If it doesn’t put you to sleep with simple axioms, it rankles you through coerced thinking.

Right?

Not in our classroom that term at the University of Michigan. It was more like that famous shot of adrenaline to the heart in Pulp Fiction? Every hour we spent together was filled with rancorous debate, frank stories, and unexpected laughter. This wasn’t just because we had a great teacher and a bunch of characters in the room. What made our conversations so engrossing–and fun–is that we had a safe space to rigorously and respectfully air our differences–not only with each other, but within ourselves. To challenge each other’s assumptions, bring undiscussable topics into the light of day, and wrestle with the complexity that underlies every single business situation–if you know where to look.

Two decades later, I invited the teacher of that class, Tim Fort, now at the Kelley School of Business at Indiana University, to join me for a conversation.

In Episode 9 of The Amiel Show, Tim Fort and I discuss:

Why it’s important and difficult to know which virtue to use in which situation
What we can learn about trust and business ethics from Star Wars and football marching bands
How integrity is neither simple nor idealistic but a practical confrontation with a complex world
How organizations can make it easier for people to speak candidly about difficult issues
What leaders can do to deliberately practice high integrity behavior on the job
What Tim is personally practicing to develop as a human being

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Episode 5: Vicki Halsey on “Woo ‘n’ Do” Learning, Email Quality, and Legendary Service [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Dec 8, 2014

In Episode 5 of The Amiel Show, I speak with Vicki Halsey. Vicki has long been one of the key players in The Ken Blanchard Companies and currently serves at VP of Applied Learning. Below is a photo of her with Ken Blanchard, with whom she coauthored the book Legendary Service. In this high-energy conversation, Vicki and I discuss:

How to improve the way managers learn by shifting from “Sit ‘n’ Get” to “Woo ‘n’ Do”
How to manage email before it manages you by sending fewer emails and increasing the quality of the ones that we do send
The difference between legendary service and the ordinary service most of us experience most of the time

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Episode 3: Jennifer Garvey Berger on Leadership and Adult Development [The Amiel Show]

by amiel · Nov 24, 2014

In the 21 years since I started developing leaders, I’ve come across a handful of truly game-changing ideas. One of these is adult development. It’s the notion that after our bodies reach maturity, our minds can develop through multiple stages. Each stage gives us the capacity to handle greater complexity, yet also involves a loss of something we hold dear—namely, the way of seeing the world that up until now felt like “me.”

In Episode 3 of The Amiel Show, I speak with Jennifer Garvey Berger, one of the foremost educators about adult development in leadership and organizations. We discuss:

The many ways we expect leaders to be both superhuman and supremely human
How awesome it is to have new capacities to look forward to as we get older
How learning about adult development makes us more compassionate and less judgmental toward others
The massive achievement of the Socialized Mind, when you first move beyond vast loneliness and self-centeredness and feel connected to others
How the Socialized Mind leaves you unprepared for many leadership situations
How much of emotional intelligence requires the Self-Authored Mind
The Self-Authored Mind, when you develop the code of your own life and realize that, no, people don’t “piss you off,” because you make your own emotions
How it can take decades for people to develop the Self-Authored Mind
The value of having a companion to help you deal with development’s uncertain gains and painful losses
The Self-Transforming Mind, when complexity and ambiguity become our natural playgrounds

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